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[HiddenHollow]

Hi all,

I've been considering adding Linnies to my small breeding program for quite awhile now and am ready to put out feelers for either a couple of unrelated babies/juveniles, or a mature pair (proven is not necessary but would be a bonus). As an aviculturist I breed to promote overall health and genetic diversity in the species I work with, so I'd love obtain birds from someone with a focused breeding program (and bonus points if they work with/toward show-quality).

I would *really* love for one of the birds to be creamino, or even just split ino - also very interested in violet. Currently not interested in greywings. I am in north central West Virginia but very comfortable with shipping via Delta. Also in no big rush, I know my 'wish list' is rather particular so I'd love to chat with those who might have the right fit for me later, even if they don't right now.

Thanks in advance

 

[Eddie's Aviary]

I have missed some messages here, and for that I apologize. They have all been great!

You sound just like the type of person we celebrate to join raising this species.

We could set up a separate thread on pairing and/or the use of violet if anybody is interested in the topic.

Short answer for now: you don't want to bring any ino, ino splits, or greywing into any violet pairings.

If anyone is interested in a more in depth discussion on why, I would love to foster that.

 

[Danny watt]

Hi all,

I've been considering adding Linnies to my small breeding program for quite awhile now and am ready to put out feelers for either a couple of unrelated babies/juveniles, or a mature pair (proven is not necessary but would be a bonus). As an aviculturist I breed to promote overall health and genetic diversity in the species I work with, so I'd love obtain birds from someone with a focused breeding program (and bonus points if they work with/toward show-quality).

I would *really* love for one of the birds to be creamino, or even just split ino - also very interested in violet. Currently not interested in greywi

 

[HiddenHollow]

I have missed some messages here, and for that I apologize. They have all been great!

You sound just like the type of person we celebrate to join raising this species.

We could set up a separate thread on pairing and/or the use of violet if anybody is interested in the topic.

Short answer for now: you don't want to bring any ino, ino splits, or greywing into any violet pairings.

If anyone is interested in a more in depth discussion on why, I would love to foster that.

Sorry, I am somehow just now seeing this! And thank you for that tip! I had not yet even thought about violet and ino in terms of being a genetic combo - since violet is a mutation that affects feather structure rather than pigment, I assume that plays a part in determining its recommended pairings as well? I loooove a good chat on genetics and would be thrilled to see a thread/discussion on this.

And as an update - Since creating this post I have managed to obtain my first pair of Linnies! Will try attaching a pic of the lovely couple

 

[Eddie's Aviary]

They look great! Do you know if the dark green or turquoise have any splits? Then we can talk what will come out of them. Were they dna sexed? If so, what lab? They have closed bands (that means the breeder is less likely to mix up test results/records)?

Greywing and ino are genes to avoid when working with violet because in sf it is only easily identifiable on d turq (cobalt) specimens. Greywing mutes the mutation so it makes it even harder to properly identify. Ino and green series also near impossible to identify in sf.

I think there is a thread about violet on this page, but we can start a new thread for a fresh discussion. Just if you could, post the question in the right spot. Under genetics tab is likely the best place.

My experience is that mutation chasing can affect species health, but doesn't yield any higher baby prices as most people love any handfed dna tested baby, not very picky on mutation. Greywing not as desirable, and most people have a love/hate relationship with inos (red eyes). Creamino harder to place than lutino in my experience. Breeders may have interest to pay good prices for violet, but they are almost never willing to pay what a pet home will. Pet homes live the good life too, and lifelong relationships between breeder and owner are a lot of fun if that is something you would enjoy having. Vetting prospective homes with a phone call makes it pretty clear quick if they are a good match.

Raising/exhibiting/keeping all avian species is on the decline, so getting new people education and the fever to do it is my goal!

Thanks for the post Make more Lets Learn Together

 

[HiddenHollow]

They look great! Do you know if the dark green or turquoise have any splits? Then we can talk what will come out of them. Were they dna sexed? If so, what lab? They have closed bands (that means the breeder is less likely to mix up test results/records)?

Greywing and ino are genes to avoid when working with violet because in sf it is only easily identifiable on d turq (cobalt) specimens. Greywing mutes the mutation so it makes it even harder to properly identify. Ino and green series also near impossible to identify in sf.

I think there is a thread about violet on this page, but we can start a new thread for a fresh discussion. Just if you could, post the question in the right spot. Under genetics tab is likely the best place.

My experience is that mutation chasing can affect species health, but doesn't yield any higher baby prices as most people love any handfed dna tested baby, not very picky on mutation. Greywing not as desirable, and most people have a love/hate relationship with inos (red eyes). Creamino harder to place than lutino in my experience. Breeders may have interest to pay good prices for violet, but they are almost never willing to pay what a pet home will. Pet homes live the good life too, and lifelong relationships between breeder and owner are a lot of fun if that is something you would enjoy having. Vetting prospective homes with a phone call makes it pretty clear quick if they are a good match.

Raising/exhibiting/keeping all avian species is on the decline, so getting new people education and the fever to do it is my goal!

Thanks for the post Make more Lets Learn Together

The male is split to turquoise and ino, so if my calculations are correct, this means they could produce green, d green, turquoise, and cobalt of both sexes; and potentially lutino and creamino, which would be sex-linked hens. This was my ideal initial pairing, as it let me pair a mutation to a green (to help maintain health & size of offspring) and still has the possibility to produce a veritable rainbow of babies I personally love creaminos and would be thrilled to get a little butter pat baby, but of course my only real goal as of now are hatched, healthy babies - once the pair is ready

Both birds are early 2023 hatches (and of course are unrelated); they were DNA sexed (Avian Biotech/Animal Genetics), and the hen does have a closed band and male has a split.

I am quite small scale and do mostly adopt out to pet homes as a preference, the only exceptions have been when sending birds to friends who are also breeders. I do not sell to pet stores, brokers, or wholesalers. I have an online application that helps me to initially screen potential homes as well, which does definitely save me a lot of time and headaches.