General Feeding Information

Eddie's Aviary

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General Feeding Information

© Laura Fratoni – Eddie’s Aviary -reproduce only with permission please

Feeding your Linnie is most of the fun of keeping them. What do we feed them to ensure they are getting what they need?

Wild Lineolated Parakeet diets? One of the biggest challenges with keeping Linnies is understanding their natural diets, habitats and trying to mimic them. This is due to the elusive nature of the species, often keeping to themselves high in the tree canopy in places like the Andes Mountains. We do not know what their wild main diets are comprised of, but there are some clues.

Linnies have a low stance on the perch and are skilled climbers, “scurrying” on perches more than flying to and from a spot. Their nails are very thick and grow quickly compared to other parrots their size. It is believed this evolved to stave off excessive wear as they run along branches searching for food, so they need to not wear down too quickly. Foods found in these areas are usually insects which are high in protein.

Diversity is King: Birds are like humans: a natural, nutritious and diverse diet is best. We have been trained that “color” on our plate equals broad nutritional coverage. Same for your bird!

Pellet Debate: As with many parts of aviculture, feeding pellets is hotly debated. Veterinarians have the unique opportunity to see birds of all species when gravely ill. Birds mask their symptoms until in very advanced disease, so these vets see large numbers of them that are beyond saving. A large portion of these birds suffered from Vitamin A deficiency and the owners would commonly report they fed them “seed” diets. The problem with blaming seeds for their demise is that not all seed diets are the same. The common brands you see in big box or grocery stores are very “blonde” mixes, made with mostly proso millet and a few others. Safflower and oat groats are commonly dyed different colors to trick us into thinking there is diversity in nutritional value. All “seed” diets are not equal. They should not be the only part of the diet, always think diversity.

Pellets are made from mostly corn and soy, which are high in sugar, and plant hormones. These are endocrine system disrupters. Our birds would not breed on them, which is the benchmark for overall health. They are also highly vitaminized, and the manufacturer recommends them to be 95-100% of the complete diet as each bite of another food off-sets the vitamin load in the pellets which can easily cause them to become deficient. They are also very dry. Linnies drink a lot of water, and do not suffer the issues the Australian species do with digesting them, but that does not make them a good answer for birds in our experience. Europe, with its large number of keepers, tried pellets when they came out in the early 1990’s, and quickly abandoned them for poor breeding results. There are responsible ways to prevent your birds from becoming hormonal and laying eggs if that is what you desire, keeping them deficient is not the way to do it. There is an article on how to prevent these behaviors in another section here in the forum.

What we Feed: We feed a range of foods to try and touch every nutritional base.

We manufacture a 50+ ingredient 100% natural, nut, seed, fruit, veggie, probiotic mix that we use as a daily offering in one of the dry food dishes. A tablespoon per bird is usually plenty daily if you are also a feeder of other things (which we recommend). If you would like to view the ingredient list or purchase our food, click HERE.

In times of molt, conditioning for breeding, or feeding babies: Offer dried egg food and/or Miracle Meal in the other dry dish. The high protein content assists in feather growth as feathers are built from a protein base. We feed all our birds this once per week unless molting or feeding young.

Chop: Chop is a word to describe the style and way to prepare the fresh food, and not so much of what is in it. It is a very flexible fresh option, where you can choose from a large variety of fresh fruits, veggies, and greens. Sprouts can also be added (see below for description). It is easy to want to overfeed, but a single bird should only be offered a tablespoon of the mix in order to encourage them to eat all of it, instead of just picking out their favorite items from it.

Vegetables are much higher in vitamins and not full of sugar like most fruits, so should be the main staple. Choosing veggies of the red, orange, and yellow color variety means they are higher in Vitamin A, which is an area of deficiency that requires coverage. Red, orange or yellow bell peppers, carrot, beets, sweet potatoes (yams), spinach (baby is best to avoid high oxalate levels which can rob calcium), kale, and collard greens for example. Pieces should be diced or shredded to prevent waste as they will hold the food in their foot and heavy pieces are easily dropped. Broccoli, swiss chard, corn (in moderation, as it is high in sugar), peas, brussel sprouts,

Fruits are high in sugar and should be offered in more limited quantities. Apples, grapes and quartered pomegranate (great foraging opportunity) are a couple of favorites. Apple and grape are often heavily sprayed with pesticides so offer organic if possible. Fresher foods retain more of their vitamins, so when available, using a farmer’s market or your own garden as veggies found in grocery stores are often up to a month old and have lost much of the vitamin content.

Feeding lots of fresh and sprouted foods mimics the fertile season, so if trying to avoid breeding behaviors in your pet birds, try to limit chop to 2-3x a week at max.

Sprouting: Seeds get a bad rap due to low quality, limited varieties in the mix, and some people using these low variety brands as the sole food. Sprouting seeds wakes up the nutrition in the seed as when stored dry, they are in a dormant state. Soaking overnight, and frequent rinsing, most seeds will sprout within a day or two. Chickpeas and mung beans are also easy to sprout and a good choice to add. Best when fed right after the “tail” emerges, or else nutrition is lost due to energy stores used to produce the greenery. It also takes longer to sprout, which increases your chances of spoilage. We have another article on sprouting that is found under this feeding heading. Don’t forget: sprouts can be mixed into your chop offering. Click for Sprout Kits, & Seeds to Sprout.

Soft Cooked Mashes:

We like to use ancient grains that are highest in nutritional value. Quinoa (done cooking when they first start to unravel), Farro, Amarath, and brown rice are some easy to find, good choices. Couscous, Barley, Steel Cut Oats are a couple other easy to obtain choices. We cook in the “pasta method” which is to bring a large pot of water to a boil and adding the grain. Birds prefer their cooked grains “al dente” so when the grain is “to the tooth” we add frozen vegetables, flash frozen and sold in the freezer section of the grocery store. They usually contain peas, corn, green beans, and carrots most commonly. If the mix contains Lima beans, we discard those as they are a controversial bean. The frozen veggies only need 30 seconds to thaw and warm, so we quickly drain the mixture. Once the water has been removed, we toss in dried egg food, or ground monkey chow for a bump in protein. You can also add mashed hard boiled eggs, sprouts, and chop if you want to go for the trifecta of bird feeding all in one!

Egg Food: Linnies do very well with higher protein foods, especially during breeding enticement, feeding of young, times of molt, or young birds feathering in for the first time. Feathers are made from keratin, which large stores of protein make for faster feather development, and strength in the shaft/bards.

There are two main kinds of egg food: commercially prepared, dried egg food, which will not spoil and can be left in a bowl available to the birds at all times, and fresh egg food that you prepare by scrambling, hard boiling and halving or mashing to a fluffy consistency. This is an inexpensive and great way to feed egg food to your birds but must be removed from the cage after a couple of hours to prevent spoilage.

Hanging “Whole” Veggies as part of Enrichment: Stainless steel bird “kabob” toys are an easy way to offer whole, fresh foods that add to your bird’s mental enrichment. Chunked apple, broccoli, steamed al dente sweet potatoes, and grapes are easy to pierce choices. Hanging a leaf of kale, swiss chard or collard greens offers much shredding and nutritional enrichment.

Conclusion: Variety is king! Choose brightly colored (organic when possible): red, orange, and yellow veggies to boost Vit A. Use a quality daily dry staple. Do your research on pellets. If you want to use them, take photos of your bird at the start, and compare to a new photo one year later (you will likely drop them). Be mindful of the amount of light you provide (12+ hours per day is a trigger), and how often you serve fresh as they are all hormone triggers. Always offer egg food in times of breeding or molt (include 2x a day spray baths). Be sure to remove all fresh foods from the cage after a couple of hours, sooner if ambient is above 70 degrees.

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Love My Linnie

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Thank you Laura for an awesome informative article! One question...how often do you offer the cooked mash? Would you give it once a week, just occasionally or only at certain times, like during a moult? Thank you for sharing such useful articles. It’s wonderful to have a place like The Linnie Forum to go to for advice and talking with others who share a love for Linnie’s! 🥰
 

Eddie's Aviary

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Cooked/Fresh/or Sprouted foods mimic the "wet/fertile season" in the wild and if fed in excess of 3x a week to a sexually mature female, it can get breeding hormones (egg laying) activated. Males also can be triggered, but usually just start some bratty nipping and/or masturbation which is less problematic. I like to sprout for one day of feeding, a chop for one, and cooked another. Generally every other day to the birds I wish not to breed. Coupled with less than 12 hours of light, and no sleep huts, you should not have any issues! ♥
 

Lisa

Hatchling
General Feeding Information

© Laura Fratoni – Eddie’s Aviary -reproduce only with permission please

Feeding your Linnie is most of the fun of keeping them. Watching them devour nutritious foods, holding some big pieces in their foot and eating like a larger parrot provides hours of entertainment. But what do we feed them to ensure they are getting what they need?

Wild Lineolated Parakeet diets? One of the biggest challenges with keeping Linnies is understanding their natural diets, habitats and trying to mimic them. This is due to the elusive nature of the species, often keeping to themselves high in the tree canopy in places like the Andes Mountains. We do not know what their wild main diets are comprised of, but there are some clues.

Linnies have a low stance on the perch and are skilled climbers, “scurrying” on perches more than flying to and from a spot. Their nails are very thick and grow quickly compared to other parrots their size. It is believed this evolved to stave off excessive wear as they run along branches searching for food, so they need to not wear down too quickly. Foods found in these areas are usually insects which are high in protein.

Diversity is King: Birds are like humans: a natural, nutritious and diverse diet is best. We have been trained that “color” on our plate equals broad nutritional coverage. Same for your bird!

Pellet Debate: As with many parts of aviculture, feeding pellets is hotly debated. Veterinarians have the unique opportunity to see birds of all species when gravely ill. Birds mask their symptoms until in very advanced disease, so these vets see large numbers of them that are beyond saving. A large portion of these birds suffered from Vitamin A deficiency and the owners would commonly report they fed them “seed” diets. The problem with blaming seeds for their demise is that not all seed diets are the same. The common brands you see in big box or grocery stores are very “blonde” mixes, made with mostly proso millet and a few others. Safflower and oat groats are commonly dyed different colors to trick us into thinking there is diversity in nutritional value. All “seed” diets are not equal. They should not be the only part of the diet, always think diversity.

Pellets are made from mostly corn and soy, which are high in sugar, and plant hormones. These are endocrine system disrupters. Our birds would not breed on them, which is the benchmark for overall health. They are also highly vitaminized, and the manufacturer recommends them to be 95-100% of the complete diet as each bite of another food off-sets the vitamin load in the pellets which can easily cause them to become deficient. They are also very dry. Linnies drink a lot of water, and do not suffer the issues the Australian species do with digesting them, but that does not make them a good answer for birds in our experience. Europe, with its large number of keepers, tried pellets when they came out in the early 1990’s, and quickly abandoned them for poor breeding results. There are responsible ways to prevent your birds from becoming hormonal and laying eggs if that is what you desire, keeping them deficient is not the way to do it. There is an article on how to prevent these behaviors in another section here in the forum.

What we Feed: We feed a range of foods to try and touch every nutritional base.

We manufacture a 50+ ingredient 100% natural, nut, seed, fruit, veggie, probiotic mix that we use as a daily offering in one of the dry food dishes. A tablespoon per bird is usually plenty daily if you are also a feeder of other things (which we recommend). If you would like to view the ingredient list or purchase our food, click HERE.

In times of molt, conditioning for breeding, or feeding babies: Offer dried egg food and/or Miracle Meal in the other dry dish. The high protein content assists in feather growth as feathers are built from a protein base. We feed all our birds this once per week unless molting or feeding young.

Chop: Chop is a word to describe the style and way to prepare the fresh food, and not so much of what is in it. It is a very flexible fresh option, where you can choose from a large variety of fresh fruits, veggies, and greens. Sprouts can also be added (see below for description). It is easy to want to overfeed, but a single bird should only be offered a tablespoon of the mix in order to encourage them to eat all of it, instead of just picking out their favorite items from it.

Vegetables are much higher in vitamins and not full of sugar like most fruits, so should be the main staple. Choosing veggies of the red, orange, and yellow color variety means they are higher in Vitamin A, which is an area of deficiency that requires coverage. Red, orange or yellow bell peppers, carrot, beets, sweet potatoes (yams), spinach (baby is best to avoid high oxalate levels which can rob calcium), kale, and collard greens for example. Pieces should be diced or shredded to prevent waste as they will hold the food in their foot and heavy pieces are easily dropped. Broccoli, swiss chard, corn (in moderation, as it is high in sugar), peas, brussel sprouts,

Fruits are high in sugar and should be offered in more limited quantities. Apples, grapes and quartered pomegranate (great foraging opportunity) are a couple of favorites. Apple and grape are often heavily sprayed with pesticides so offer organic if possible. Fresher foods retain more of their vitamins, so when available, using a farmer’s market or your own garden as veggies found in grocery stores are often up to a month old and have lost much of the vitamin content.

Feeding lots of fresh and sprouted foods mimics the fertile season, so if trying to avoid breeding behaviors in your pet birds, try to limit chop to 2-3x a week at max.

Sprouting: Seeds get a bad rap due to low quality, limited varieties in the mix, and some people using these low variety brands as the sole food. Sprouting seeds wakes up the nutrition in the seed as when stored dry, they are in a dormant state. Soaking overnight, and frequent rinsing, most seeds will sprout within a day or two. Chickpeas and mung beans are also easy to sprout and a good choice to add. Best when fed right after the “tail” emerges, or else nutrition is lost due to energy stores used to produce the greenery. It also takes longer to sprout, which increases your chances of spoilage. We have another article on sprouting that is found under this feeding heading. Don’t forget: sprouts can be mixed into your chop offering. Click Here for Spout Kits, and Here for Seeds to Spout.

Soft Cooked Mashes:

We like to use ancient grains that are highest in nutritional value. Quinoa (done cooking when they first start to unravel), Farro, Amarath, and brown rice are some easy to find, good choices. Couscous, Barley, Steel Cut Oats are a couple other easy to obtain choices. We cook in the “pasta method” which is to bring a large pot of water to a boil and adding the grain. Birds prefer their cooked grains “al dente” so when the grain is “to the tooth” we add frozen vegetables, flash frozen and sold in the freezer section of the grocery store. They usually contain peas, corn, green beans, and carrots most commonly. If the mix contains Lima beans, we discard those as they are a controversial bean. The frozen veggies only need 30 seconds to thaw and warm, so we quickly drain the mixture. Once the water has been removed, we toss in dried egg food, or ground monkey chow for a bump in protein. You can also add mashed hard boiled eggs, sprouts, and chop if you want to go for the trifecta of bird feeding all in one!

Egg Food: Linnies do very well with higher protein foods, especially during breeding enticement, feeding of young, times of molt, or young birds feathering in for the first time. Feathers are made from keratin, which large stores of protein make for faster feather development, and strength in the shaft/bards.

There are two main kinds of egg food: commercially prepared, dried egg food, which will not spoil and can be left in a bowl available to the birds at all times, and fresh egg food that you prepare by scrambling, hard boiling and halving or mashing to a fluffy consistency. This is an inexpensive and great way to feed egg food to your birds but must be removed from the cage after a couple of hours to prevent spoilage.

Hanging “Whole” Veggies as part of Enrichment: Stainless steel bird “kabob” toys are an easy way to offer whole, fresh foods that add to your bird’s mental enrichment. Chunked apple, broccoli, steamed al dente sweet potatoes, and grapes are easy to pierce choices. Hanging a leaf of kale, swiss chard or collard greens offers much shredding and nutritional enrichment.

Conclusion: Variety is king! Choose brightly colored (organic when possible): red, orange, and yellow veggies to boost Vit A. Use a quality daily dry staple. Do your research on pellets. If you want to use them, take photos of your bird at the start, and compare to a new photo one year later (you will likely drop them). Be mindful of the amount of light you provide (12+ hours per day is a trigger), and how often you serve fresh as they are all hormone triggers. Always offer egg food in times of breeding or molt (include 2x a day spray baths). Be sure to remove all fresh foods from the cage after a couple of hours, sooner if ambient is above 70 degrees.
 

Lisa

Hatchling
Thank you for the valuable information on diet. As far as the soft cooked grains is it recommended to mix multiple together or say feed oatmeal one day and brown rice the next time ….If a person only has a few birds can this be prepared and frozen in small portions to avoid wasting?
 

Eddie's Aviary

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I find cooking them together difficult because of the cook times. You want to make sure the quinoa just started to unravel, the rice doesn't blow out, etc. You can cook them separately to perfection and then toss into a big bowl as you add veggies in and mix up. You can do this ahead and freeze if you like. I like to scoop it into ice cube trays and freeze, pop out and bag. I wouldn't add Miracle Meal or Dried Egg food until you are ready to serve as it helps the mix not be runny if the defrost caused it to be a little wetter than desired.
 

Morgan

Hatchling
Questions about your linnie and budgie dry mixes!

Does the dried fruit in these mixes contain added sugar, and is it sulfured?

Are the nuts human-grade, or high quality/controlled for mold mycotoxins?

These are the main reasons I use pellets (Harrison's organic, tried TOP's, they hated it) - in combination with Volkman parakeet seed mix (sprouted) and fresh produce, hardboiled egg, etc., a few times a week.

I haven't found a natural seed/nut/dried fruit mix yet that otherwise fits my quality parameters. Though arguably the pellets do not have as much variety in actual real foodstuffs, and I'm not a fan of the ubiquitous corn/soy ingredients... Trade-offs I suppose...
 

Eddie's Aviary

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Staff member
The dehydrated fruits have no added sugar, and are not sulfured.
All ingredients are human grade, though sometimes I see some pistachios that are darker from the process of getting them out of the shells. Yes, all human processing plants check for mold mycotoxins.

Pellets are recommended by the manufacturer, and the vets that recommend them as 95-100 percent of the diet or else they become imbalanced (since they are highly vitaminized). My birds did not breed well (little to no interest and extremely hard to trigger) for the years I used pellets. I moved to a diverse diet, based on whole, natural foods and they have never looked better and are easy to turn on/off for breeding. Focusing on Vit A veggies (red, orange yellow best bets) is important as psittacines are often deficient.

There are always differing opinions on these sorts of topics, I just share what I have learned over the years that work best for me.

Hope this info helps!
 

Morgan

Hatchling
Ooooooo omg, your mix is awesome! I am definitely buying some then!

Harrison's pellets (and only Harrison's) are just the best thing I had been able to find so far. Most real food mixes use sulfured and sweetened fruits and mask the quality of nuts with orange oil or something similar. I haven't had any issues with them not breeding, but I still don't think any processed pellet food (even dog food), especially with limited real food ingredients like most bird pellets, is really the most ideal diet for any animal.

Wow, I am even more delighted I found this forum now!

Okay so last few questions:

If I buy the bulk option, will it last (not expire) for just two linnies? I assume your budgie mix is equal quality so I'm going to get that too, again would the bulk option last for 8-12 budgies (I'm keeping a few babies probably, but only have 8 adults right now). If freezing it would prolong shelf life I can easily freeze the bulk and keep out only what I need for a month at a time or so.

If the budgies and linnies share mixes would that be detrimental? They mostly eat in their own cages but when I have everyone out together they visit each others' cages to see what everyone else has got, and every so often I put out a communal dish outside the cages. (Not now while most are breeding of course).

And I definitely focus on the vitamin A rich produce! I'm a nutrition buff myself, so I find avian nutrition equally if not more fascinating.
 

Eddie's Aviary

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Staff member
Freezing it makes it last.

I feed Linnie Mix most of the year in a mixed flight with English Budgies and Cockatiels. Ingredients are very similar, it is just the screen size on the chop that differs. I find Budgies to be chewers and make quick work of the bigger chunks, maybe minus a whole pea or pistachio.
 

Morgan

Hatchling
Yay!! I’ll probably buy both anyway and maybe mix them together. My budgies are used to either tiny diced pieces or thinly sliced stuff clipped up (carrot peelers are awesomeness, btw), and they tend to just ignore all big chunks of anything. So just in case… :D
 

Morgan

Hatchling
Yep! Northern California - Humboldt County.

It quoted me $33 to ship $60 worth of food - I think I chose the 10lb linnie mix and the 1lb bird salad. I don't know if you use USPS, UPS or FedEx and if it calculates purely by weight, but there's always the "if it fits it ships" one price boxes at the post office, so I don't think it needs to be quite so high. Other potential shipping options I'm unaware of though.

I don't know if its feasible as a small company, but do you think you my ever be able to offer free or discounted shipping with orders over $50 or even $100 in future?
 

Eddie's Aviary

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Staff member
We are on the other Coast, and shipping this year has really skyrocketed. USPS went up a buck on the flat rate box we use for 5# bags just this week.

Unfortunately we can't offer free shipping as you have to raise the price of the product enough to cover ship costs across the country, and that really penalizes the buyers not on the west coast. So, we keep the product as inexpensive as possible and make the shipping the responsibility of the buyer. We don't charge "handling" for packing supplies or the time. It is the best we can do.

Please send any other questions direct to the company at sales@chirpcentral.com, we want to keep this forum a place to talk Linnie care, not clutter this feeding thread with off-topic stuff.

PS - some remote areas of CA are surcharged, if that is you.... some have it shipped to a friend or family members home, or place of business to save $$
 
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